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What kind of Whiskey do Americans drink?
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thedarkman
2009-08-20 12:32:02 UTC
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Irish now I should think.

Remember Lockerbie

absolute, total madness

http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/
Nigel Oldfield
2009-08-20 12:45:32 UTC
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Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/
I thought it was a noble and thoughtful speech, leading to the correct
decision.

Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.

WM
b***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-08-20 12:55:24 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Nigel Oldfield
Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/
I thought it was a noble and thoughtful speech, leading to the correct
decision.
Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.
Shove your compassion up your fucking arse. What about compassion and
justice for the hundreds of familes still suffering you sanctamonious tosser?

B2003
Nigel Oldfield
2009-08-20 12:58:32 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Nigel Oldfield
Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/
I thought it was a noble and thoughtful speech, leading to the correct
decision.
Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.
Shove your compassion up your fucking arse. What about compassion and
justice for the hundreds of familes still suffering you sanctamonious tosser?
B2003
I have compassion for them too. That is the direction compassion
goes ...

... but I lost no one, you need to ask some of those families who do
support the decision.

WM
b***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-08-20 13:14:10 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Nigel Oldfield
I have compassion for them too. That is the direction compassion
goes ...
Sorry?
Post by Nigel Oldfield
.... but I lost no one, you need to ask some of those families who do
support the decision.
What about the vast majority that don't? Do they not get a say? Well
apparently not it seems.

But what the hell, I guess you didn't lose anyone to the Yorshire Ripper
or Ian Brady either so perhaps we start weeping into our hankies for them
and let them out while we're at it.

B2003
Smolley
2009-08-20 14:26:39 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Nigel Oldfield
I have compassion for them too. That is the direction compassion
goes ...
Sorry?
Post by Nigel Oldfield
.... but I lost no one, you need to ask some of those families who do
support the decision.
What about the vast majority that don't? Do they not get a say? Well
apparently not it seems.
But what the hell, I guess you didn't lose anyone to the Yorshire Ripper
or Ian Brady either so perhaps we start weeping into our hankies for them
and let them out while we're at it.
B2003
Argh, you forgot to mention your compassion for the 230 passengers of the
civil Iranian airliner the wanks shot down 6 months before.
b***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-08-20 15:39:50 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:26:39 +0100
Post by Smolley
Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
But what the hell, I guess you didn't lose anyone to the Yorshire Ripper
or Ian Brady either so perhaps we start weeping into our hankies for them
and let them out while we're at it.
B2003
Argh, you forgot to mention your compassion for the 230 passengers of the
civil Iranian airliner the wanks shot down 6 months before.
Yes they did. And the idiots responsible should have been slung in jail though
I've no idea what actually happened to them. Probably sod all knowing the
US military's record at owning up to its mistakes. But that doesn't make the
lockerbie bombing any less worse. And lets not forget it wasn't just americans
on that 747 that night.

B2003
®i©ardo
2009-08-23 13:43:55 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:26:39 +0100
Post by Smolley
Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
But what the hell, I guess you didn't lose anyone to the Yorshire Ripper
or Ian Brady either so perhaps we start weeping into our hankies for them
and let them out while we're at it.
B2003
Argh, you forgot to mention your compassion for the 230 passengers of the
civil Iranian airliner the wanks shot down 6 months before.
Yes they did. And the idiots responsible should have been slung in jail though
I've no idea what actually happened to them. Probably sod all knowing the
US military's record at owning up to its mistakes. But that doesn't make the
lockerbie bombing any less worse. And lets not forget it wasn't just americans
on that 747 that night.
B2003
The captain of the USS Vincennes got a medal!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/flight801/stories/july88crash.htm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/docs/ir655-nightline-19920701.html
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Nigel Oldfield
2009-08-20 19:15:40 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Post by Nigel Oldfield
I have compassion for them too. That is the direction compassion
goes ...
Sorry?
Post by Nigel Oldfield
.... but I lost no one, you need to ask some of those families who do
support the decision.
What about the vast majority that don't? Do they not get a say? Well
apparently not it seems.
But what the hell, I guess you didn't lose anyone to the Yorshire Ripper
or Ian Brady either so perhaps we start weeping into our hankies for them
and let them out while we're at it.
B2003
They are entitled to their say and they will always have that.

They have also received Justice, in the law of that land.

WM
thedarkman
2009-08-20 14:05:21 UTC
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Post by Nigel Oldfield
Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.
WM
Nor 270 grieving families apparently. If they let this bloke out what
is the point of prisons?
Mike Ross
2009-08-20 15:48:37 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT), thedarkman
Post by thedarkman
Post by Nigel Oldfield
Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.
WM
Nor 270 grieving families apparently. If they let this bloke out what
is the point of prisons?
Be fair, darkman; not all of those 270 families are convinced of his guilt; some
are indeed convinced of his innocence, have supported his appeals, and have
advocated his release.

(I'm not, so don't bother shooting the messenger)

Mike
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Special Care
2009-08-20 16:11:32 UTC
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Post by Mike Ross
Be fair, darkman; not all of those 270 families are convinced of his guilt; some
are indeed convinced of his innocence, have supported his appeals, and have
advocated his release.
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He was appealing against his conviction.
It seems a deal was done.
His appeal would have dredged up a lot of awkward facts which no one
wants.
It seems the ruling group offered him release and a happy death in
return for dropping the appeal which might have identified the REAL
bombers.
Smolley
2009-08-20 18:41:59 UTC
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Post by Mike Ross
Be fair, darkman; not all of those 270 families are convinced of his guilt; some
are indeed convinced of his innocence, have supported his appeals, and have
advocated his release.
----------------------------------

He was appealing against his conviction.
It seems a deal was done.
His appeal would have dredged up a lot of awkward facts which no one
wants.
It seems the ruling group offered him release and a happy death in
return for dropping the appeal which might have identified the REAL
bombers.


Surely not the CIA.
Francis Burton
2009-08-20 17:31:00 UTC
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Post by thedarkman
Nor 270 grieving families apparently. If they let this bloke out what
is the point of prisons?
Punishment, deterrence, public protection, rehabilitation. Making
the victims and/or their families feel better is at best incidental.
In any case, I doubt that retribution (as an emotional response) has
any therapeutic value - quite the opposite in fact.

Francis
Nigel Oldfield
2009-08-20 19:16:19 UTC
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Post by thedarkman
Post by Nigel Oldfield
Compassion is enough for me, oil does not concern me.
WM
Nor 270 grieving families apparently. If they let this bloke out what
is the point of prisons?
See above.

WM
b***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-08-20 12:46:59 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
Quite. At this moment I feel ashamed to be British.

Liberal lefty bleeding heart compassion for the criminal has reached its
absolute nadir today. Is it possible for these disguting individuals morality
to sink any lower?

B2003
Brimstone
2009-08-20 12:56:51 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
Quite. At this moment I feel ashamed to be British.
Liberal lefty bleeding heart compassion for the criminal has reached
its absolute nadir today. Is it possible for these disguting
individuals morality to sink any lower?
As always there is an alternative view.

That al-Megrahi did not do the deed but someone had to be punished for such
a crime and he conveniently came to hand. His release on compassionate
grounds allows him to be freed without any comback on anyone and opens the
way to more trade with Lybia.

There no no more dirty trades than money and politics.
b***@yahoo.co.uk
2009-08-20 13:07:55 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:56:51 +0100
Post by Brimstone
That al-Megrahi did not do the deed
Says you. A judge and jury disagreed.
Post by Brimstone
grounds allows him to be freed without any comback on anyone and opens the
way to more trade with Lybia.
And what valuable commodities do we trade with Lybia then?

B2003
Brimstone
2009-08-20 15:31:57 UTC
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Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:56:51 +0100
Post by Brimstone
That al-Megrahi did not do the deed
Says you. A judge and jury disagreed.
What jury?
Post by b***@yahoo.co.uk
Post by Brimstone
grounds allows him to be freed without any comback on anyone and
opens the way to more trade with Lybia.
And what valuable commodities do we trade with Lybia then?
The fact that they are members of OPEC might provide a clue.
Shaun
2009-08-20 16:37:46 UTC
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT), thedarkman
Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
They can buy it at NORAID fundraisers
White Spirit
2009-08-20 16:55:44 UTC
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Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
'Freedom' whisky...
®i©ardo
2009-08-23 13:40:35 UTC
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Post by thedarkman
Irish now I should think.
Remember Lockerbie
absolute, total madness
http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/
And why not, terrorists do tend to cling together.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm

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