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Britain to outlaw anti democratic hate speech
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h***@anony.net
2015-05-14 21:38:55 UTC
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If the lawyers had the guts to take on the Islamists the way
they preach hatred and killing of non believers , our problems would
end

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/counter-terrorism-bill-extremism-disruption-orders-david-cameron

David Cameron to unveil new limits on extremists' activities in
Queen's speech
Prime minister will announce counter-terrorism bill including plans to
restrict harmful actions of those seeking to radicalise young people

David Cameron will tell the national security council that Britain
has been a ‘passively tolerant society’ for too long. Photograph:
Scott Heppell/PA A counter-terrorism bill including plans for
extremism disruption orders designed to restrict those trying to
radicalise young people is to be included in the Queen’s speech, David
Cameron will tell the national security council on Wednesday.

The orders, the product of an extremism task force set up by the prime
minister, were proposed during the last parliament in March, but were
largely vetoed by the Liberal Democrats on the grounds of free speech.
They were subsequently revived in the Conservative manifesto.

The measures would give the police powers to apply to the high court
for an order to limit the “harmful activities” of an extremist
individual. The definition of harmful is to include a risk of public
disorder, a risk of harassment, alarm or distress or creating a
“threat to the functioning of democracy”.

The aim is to catch not just those who spread or incite hatred on the
grounds of gender, race or religion but also those who undertake
harmful activities for the “purpose of overthrowing democracy”.

They would include a ban on broadcasting and a requirement to submit
to the police in advance any proposed publication on the web and
social media or in print. The bill will also contain plans for banning
orders for extremist organisations which seek to undermine democracy
or use hate speech in public places, but it will fall short of banning
on the grounds of provoking hatred.

It will also contain new powers to close premises including mosques
where extremists seek to influence others. The powers of the Charity
Commission to root out charities that misappropriate funds towards
extremism and terrorism will also be strengthened.

Cameron will tell the NSC: “For too long, we have been a passively
tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law,
we will leave you alone. It’s often meant we have stood neutral
between different values. And that’s helped foster a narrative of
extremism and grievance.

“This government will conclusively turn the page on this failed
approach. As the party of one nation, we will govern as one nation and
bring our country together. That means actively promoting certain
values.

“Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law.
Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality.

“We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society.”

The home secretary, Theresa May, will say: “The twisted narrative of
extremism cannot be ignored or wished away. This government will
challenge those who seek to spread hatred and intolerance by forming a
new partnership of every person and organisation in this country that
wants to defeat the extremists.”

The proposals arose out of the response to the killing in May 2013 of
Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London, and the murder of
Mohammed Saleem in Birmingham a month earlier
harryagain
2015-05-15 07:06:14 UTC
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Post by h***@anony.net
If the lawyers had the guts to take on the Islamists the way
they preach hatred and killing of non believers , our problems would
end
excerpt
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/counter-terrorism-bill-extremism-disruption-orders-david-cameron
David Cameron to unveil new limits on extremists' activities in
Queen's speech
Prime minister will announce counter-terrorism bill including plans to
restrict harmful actions of those seeking to radicalise young people
David Cameron will tell the national security council that Britain
Scott Heppell/PA A counter-terrorism bill including plans for
extremism disruption orders designed to restrict those trying to
radicalise young people is to be included in the Queen's speech, David
Cameron will tell the national security council on Wednesday.
The orders, the product of an extremism task force set up by the prime
minister, were proposed during the last parliament in March, but were
largely vetoed by the Liberal Democrats on the grounds of free speech.
They were subsequently revived in the Conservative manifesto.
The measures would give the police powers to apply to the high court
for an order to limit the "harmful activities" of an extremist
individual. The definition of harmful is to include a risk of public
disorder, a risk of harassment, alarm or distress or creating a
"threat to the functioning of democracy".
The aim is to catch not just those who spread or incite hatred on the
grounds of gender, race or religion but also those who undertake
harmful activities for the "purpose of overthrowing democracy".
They would include a ban on broadcasting and a requirement to submit
to the police in advance any proposed publication on the web and
social media or in print. The bill will also contain plans for banning
orders for extremist organisations which seek to undermine democracy
or use hate speech in public places, but it will fall short of banning
on the grounds of provoking hatred.
It will also contain new powers to close premises including mosques
where extremists seek to influence others. The powers of the Charity
Commission to root out charities that misappropriate funds towards
extremism and terrorism will also be strengthened.
Cameron will tell the NSC: "For too long, we have been a passively
tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law,
we will leave you alone. It's often meant we have stood neutral
between different values. And that's helped foster a narrative of
extremism and grievance.
"This government will conclusively turn the page on this failed
approach. As the party of one nation, we will govern as one nation and
bring our country together. That means actively promoting certain
values.
"Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law.
Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality.
"We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society."
The home secretary, Theresa May, will say: "The twisted narrative of
extremism cannot be ignored or wished away. This government will
challenge those who seek to spread hatred and intolerance by forming a
new partnership of every person and organisation in this country that
wants to defeat the extremists."
The proposals arose out of the response to the killing in May 2013 of
Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London, and the murder of
Mohammed Saleem in Birmingham a month earlier
I wonder if it'll include closing down mosques and deporting mad ragheads?
Ophelia
2015-05-15 09:52:35 UTC
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Post by harryagain
Post by h***@anony.net
If the lawyers had the guts to take on the Islamists the way
they preach hatred and killing of non believers , our problems would
end
excerpt
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/13/counter-terrorism-bill-extremism-disruption-orders-david-cameron
David Cameron to unveil new limits on extremists' activities in
Queen's speech
Prime minister will announce counter-terrorism bill including plans to
restrict harmful actions of those seeking to radicalise young people
David Cameron will tell the national security council that Britain
Scott Heppell/PA A counter-terrorism bill including plans for
extremism disruption orders designed to restrict those trying to
radicalise young people is to be included in the Queen's speech, David
Cameron will tell the national security council on Wednesday.
The orders, the product of an extremism task force set up by the prime
minister, were proposed during the last parliament in March, but were
largely vetoed by the Liberal Democrats on the grounds of free speech.
They were subsequently revived in the Conservative manifesto.
The measures would give the police powers to apply to the high court
for an order to limit the "harmful activities" of an extremist
individual. The definition of harmful is to include a risk of public
disorder, a risk of harassment, alarm or distress or creating a
"threat to the functioning of democracy".
The aim is to catch not just those who spread or incite hatred on the
grounds of gender, race or religion but also those who undertake
harmful activities for the "purpose of overthrowing democracy".
They would include a ban on broadcasting and a requirement to submit
to the police in advance any proposed publication on the web and
social media or in print. The bill will also contain plans for banning
orders for extremist organisations which seek to undermine democracy
or use hate speech in public places, but it will fall short of banning
on the grounds of provoking hatred.
It will also contain new powers to close premises including mosques
where extremists seek to influence others. The powers of the Charity
Commission to root out charities that misappropriate funds towards
extremism and terrorism will also be strengthened.
Cameron will tell the NSC: "For too long, we have been a passively
tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law,
we will leave you alone. It's often meant we have stood neutral
between different values. And that's helped foster a narrative of
extremism and grievance.
"This government will conclusively turn the page on this failed
approach. As the party of one nation, we will govern as one nation and
bring our country together. That means actively promoting certain
values.
"Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law.
Equal rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality.
"We must say to our citizens: this is what defines us as a society."
The home secretary, Theresa May, will say: "The twisted narrative of
extremism cannot be ignored or wished away. This government will
challenge those who seek to spread hatred and intolerance by forming a
new partnership of every person and organisation in this country that
wants to defeat the extremists."
The proposals arose out of the response to the killing in May 2013 of
Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London, and the murder of
Mohammed Saleem in Birmingham a month earlier
I wonder if it'll include closing down mosques and deporting mad ragheads?
Do you indeed. I wouldn't count your chickens.
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