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Freemason Anders Breivik trial: young survivors give evidence
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Jahbulon
2012-05-14 12:33:15 UTC
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Young people who survived Brother Anders Behring Breivik's Masonic gun
massacre on the island of Utøya have been giving evidence at his trial
in Oslo.

Some of those who escaped the Masonic gun massacre on island of Utøya,
in which 69 died, said were initially unaware they had been shot and
Brother Anders Behring Breivik smiled in court during his trial in Oslo.

Brother Breivik, a 33 year old Freemason, who admits carrying out the
Masonic bomb and gun attacks last summer which left 77 dead - including
69 on Utøya - but is pleading not guilty on the grounds that the attacks
were an act of "self preservation" carried out to protect the
"indigenous" population of Norway from immigration.

Frida Holm Skoglund, 20, became the first witness in the 10-week trial
to ask Brother Breivik to leave the courtroom before she took the stand.
Brother Breivik watched proceedings via video link next door.

Wearing a headband made of daisies, Skoglund described in a quiet voice
how she had been in the tent camp when she heard a series of bangs. She
saw a man "dressed in police uniform" and suddenly fellow campers
"scattered like birds".

The man was not a police officer, but the Freemason, Brother Breivik,
halfway through the act he now describes as "brutal but necessary".

Skoglund had run some distance before she realised she had been shot.

"I touched my thigh and felt something sharp there," she said. "I pulled
it out and I saw, I felt the bullet."

Another witness, Silja Kristianne Uteng, 21, also did not register she
had been hit until some time after the event. She thought her arm had
somehow caught a tent guy rope as she ran away from the island camp when
Brother Breivik opened fire. It was only after she swam all the way
across to the mainland that she realised she too had been shot.

The survivors described their thought process as they plotted their
escape. Lars Grønnestad, 20, recalled lying on the ground after one of
Brother Breivik's bullets punctured his lung. "I remember thinking I
can't just lie here, I need to get away, this is too open. While I was
looking for somewhere to go I was thinking who this could be? A right
wing extremist, left wing extremist, a coup d'etat, what it could be?"

When real police officers finally reached his part of the island,
Grønnestad was reluctant to call out for help. "I was a bit hesitant to
tell them because it was a police officer who shot me, I thought they
might come and finish what the other one started," he said.

Later, Skoglund described how Brother Anders Behring Breivik had
attempted to lure her to shore after she had started swimming, calling:
"Come back here!" She had no intention of doing so. "It was very absurd.
I didn't really understand what was going on but I would never have swum
towards a person like that," she said.

She carried on swimming despite the bullet wound in her thigh, vomiting
twice and suffering an asthma attack before finally being dragged aboard
a rowing boat. She told the court how a friend swam with one arm out of
the water, holding a mobile phone, so they could call the police. "We
had to shout into the phone to say that it was no joke - We thought they
weren't taking us seriously," she said, claiming the operator hung up on
the girls several times.

The survivors talked about how the attacks had affected their lives.

Skoglund said it had been "up and down" and that she experienced
feelings of guilt. Asked why, she said: "I was the leader of my
delegation in my county and I lost the three youngest ones."

Grønnestad appeared to be coping better. "Things are going OK," he said.
"I react somewhat [badly] to loud sounds but apart from that I have a
full life. Perhaps I appreciate things more."

But despite her vulnerability, Skoglund ended on a defiant note. "We
won. He lost. Norwegian youth can swim."

Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given his
victims nothing.
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Tony Dragon
2012-05-14 15:52:09 UTC
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On 14/05/2012 13:33, Jahbulon wrote:
Yet another altered newspaper article.
Yes yet again he has copied a newspaper report

(http://tinyurl.com/ce7jtgl)

this time from The Guardian, he then alters it, adds a few Freemason
references (there are none in the original report) & posts it on usenet.
Post by Jahbulon
Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the Freemason
Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has given his
victims nothing.
As before there has been no evidence that the above claim is factual.
Jahbulon
2012-05-19 04:53:36 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Jahbulon
Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from
the Freemason Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan
Fund. Freemasonry has given his victims nothing.
As before there has been no evidence that the above claim is factual.
How much do you claim Freemasonry has given to the victims of its Brother
Anders Behring Breivik?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2012-05-19 07:54:05 UTC
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Post by Jahbulon
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Jahbulon
Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from
the Freemason Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan
Fund. Freemasonry has given his victims nothing.
As before there has been no evidence that the above claim is factual.
How much do you claim Freemasonry has given to the victims of its Brother
Anders Behring Breivik?
I have made no such claims.

But I am waiting for you to back up both of your claims in your post.
Jahbulon
2012-05-19 23:52:56 UTC
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Tony Dragon <***@btinternet.com> wrote in news:***@bt.com:

When did Brother Gerry McCann achieve 33° Freemason status?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2012-05-20 08:04:09 UTC
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Post by Jahbulon
When did Brother Gerry McCann achieve 33° Freemason status?
More editing of post to avoid answers
Below is the thread so far.

You posted " Brother Anders Behring Breivik receives full help from the
Freemason Grand Charity and the Masonic Samaritan Fund. Freemasonry has
given his victims nothing"

I replied " As before there has been no evidence that the above claim is
factual."

You answered "How much do you claim Freemasonry has given to the victims
of its Brother Anders Behring Breivik?"

My reply was "I have made no such claims.
But I am waiting for you to back up both of your claims in your post."


So just your usual evasion.
Jahbulon
2012-05-20 11:46:50 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
You answered "How much do you claim Freemasonry has given
to the victims of its Brother Anders Behring Breivik?"
My reply was "I have made no such claims. [ . . . ]"
So just your usual evasion.
So we are agreed that Freemasonry has given the victims of its Brother
Anders Behring Breivik absolutely nothing. Freemasonry supports the
terrorist Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2012-05-20 12:17:48 UTC
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Post by Jahbulon
Post by Tony Dragon
You answered "How much do you claim Freemasonry has given
to the victims of its Brother Anders Behring Breivik?"
My reply was "I have made no such claims. [ . . . ]"
So just your usual evasion.
So we are agreed that Freemasonry has given the victims of its Brother
Anders Behring Breivik absolutely nothing. Freemasonry supports the
terrorist Brother Anders Behring Breivik.
No we are not agreed about that, as any normal person reading the thread
will understand.

But this is just your usual evasion method.

No doubt you will try doing the same if you answer this post.

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