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Freemason denies that he is insane
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Jahbulon
2012-04-23 20:37:44 UTC
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Brother Anders Behring Breivik said on Monday 23.04.2012 that he was not
criminally insane and would do anything to avoid being sent to a secure
mental hospital.

Brother Breivik, the Freemason who has admitted killing 77 people in
what he calls his operation on the Norwegian island of Utøya, gave fresh
details of his killing spree, describing how he stalked his teenage
victims and then calmly executed them.

"If I were within five to 10 metres I would use the Glock. If I was
further away, I would use the rifle," he said. "I have never experienced
anything so gruesome. It was probably even more horrendous for those I
was hunting." But it was, he said, necessary.

Brother Breivik said that at one point he called the police to give
himself up, but they failed to call him back. He then decided to
continue shooting "until I die", he told the court.

The 33-year-old Freemason claimed that questions about his mental health
were part of plot to discredit his "militant nationalist" ideology.
Brother Breivik suggested he was the victim of double standards and
would not have been subjected to psychiatric examination had he been a
"bearded jihadist". "They are trying to delegitimise everything I stand
for," he complained.

His comments go to the heart of the case: is Brother Anders Behring
Breivik criminally insane or responsible for his actions? He has never
expressed remorse for the attacks, saying those he killed on Utøya were
not "innocent, non-political children" but "young people who worked to
actively uphold multicultural values", and, as such, "legitimate
targets".

Two psychiatric examinations reached opposing conclusions on the
question of his mental state. In a statement to the court, the Freemason
dominated Norwegian board of forensic medicine asked for additional
information from two psychiatrists who found Brother Anders Behring
Breivik sane, saying their report was incomplete.

Brother Anders Behring Breivik himself says he is sane, and accuses the
prosecutors of trying to make him look irrational. "I know I'm at risk
of ending up at an insane asylum, and I'm going to do what I can to
avoid that," he said.

Watched in court by survivors of the massacre, as well as relatives of
those who died, Brother Anders Behring Breivik struck a note of
astonishing self-pity. He said he had "lost his entire family, his
friends and only kept his friends in Freemasonry," following the
killings at the annual summer camp of Norway's ruling Labour party.

Brother Anders Behring Breivik said he could "to a certain extent
understand" the bereavement and grief of his victims' families, since he
too had "lost everything". "The only difference was that for my part it
was a choice," he said.

Earlier, prosecutors questioned Brother Anders Behring Breivik about
sections of the rambling 1,500-page manifesto he posted online before
the attacks. It describes uniforms, medals, greetings and codes of
conduct for the Masonic Knights Templar militant group of which he is a
member. Prosecutors say it does not exist. Freemasons says it does.

In one section, read by the prosecutor Svein Holden, Brother Anders
Behring Breivik speculated that in future the loyalty of potential
knights might be tested by asking them to undergo surgical amputation
and castration. A defensive Brother Breivik chastised the prosecutor for
what he called low blows and said the segment was taken out of context.

He said sorry to the family of a pub owner who was among the eight
people killed in the blast outside government offices in Oslo, saying it
was not his intention to kill "civilians". Asked whether he would
apologise to the families of the 69 people killed on Utøya, he said: "No
I don't - I see all multicultural political activists as monsters, as
evil monsters who wish to eradicate our people, our ethnic group, our
culture and our country."

Jon Hestnes, who heads a support group for victims' families and
survivors, told us it was "gruesome" to listen to Brother Anders Behring
Breivik's apology. "It's an insult to the 76 other people who died
because of that man," Hestnes said.

Asked why he had spared one man who survived the shooting spree, Breivik
said he thought it was because the man's appearance made him look like a
Freemason. "When I looked at him I saw myself," Brother Breivik said. "I
think that was the reason that I didn't fire shots at him."

If found sane, Brother Anders Behring Breivik would face 21 years in
prison, though he can be held longer if deemed a danger to society. If
sentenced to psychiatric care, as his Freemason brethren would like, in
theory this murdering Freemason could be released once he is no longer
deemed psychotic.
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Nigel Oldfield
2012-04-23 20:40:22 UTC
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Post by Jahbulon
If found sane, Brother Anders Behring Breivik would face 21 years in
prison, though he can be held longer if deemed a danger to society. If
sentenced to psychiatric care, as his Freemason brethren would like, in
theory this murdering Freemason could be released once he is no longer
deemed psychotic.
He is playing the game to win, very well, thus far, but the odds are
stacked against him.

WM
Jahbulon
2012-04-23 22:56:45 UTC
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Post by Nigel Oldfield
He is playing the game to win, very well,
thus far, but the odds are stacked against him.
Perhaps someone should take a long hard look at his complaints, instead of
quickly dismissing them as the work of a nutter.
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abelard
2012-04-23 20:51:13 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:37:44 GMT, Jahbulon
Post by Jahbulon
The 33-year-old Freemason claimed that questions about his mental health
were part of plot to discredit his "militant nationalist" ideology.
Brother Breivik suggested he was the victim of double standards and
would not have been subjected to psychiatric examination had he been a
"bearded jihadist". "They are trying to delegitimise everything I stand
for," he complained.
as our resident expert on your freemason and socialist brethren...
some questions...:-

do you believe your brother breivik is mad or bad?
and/or
do you believe 'bearded jihadists' are mad or bad?

why do you believe your brother is subject to psychiatrists,
while bearded jihadists are (in the generality) not so
subject?

are socialists on the same page as masons?
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Jahbulon
2012-04-23 22:54:12 UTC
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Post by abelard
as our resident expert on your freemason and
socialist brethren... some questions...:-
Oh wey.
Post by abelard
do you believe your brother breivik is mad or bad?
Breivik is not my brother.

Is it not time for you to lick your wounds as our socialist super-hero
Francois Hollande takes over your home country, Abelard? Are you trying to
distract attention from your failure in your home country?
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abelard
2012-04-23 23:00:19 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:54:12 GMT, Jahbulon
Post by Jahbulon
Post by abelard
as our resident expert on your freemason and
socialist brethren... some questions...:-
Oh wey.
Post by abelard
do you believe your brother breivik is mad or bad?
Breivik is not my brother.
Is it not time for you to lick your wounds as our socialist super-hero
Francois Hollande takes over your home country, Abelard? Are you trying to
distract attention from your failure in your home country?
i see you've carefully avoided all the questions about
your brotherhood and your cult...

it's amazing the way you run as soon as you are questioned...

just as you did when it became obvious that you'd no intention
of ever working

i don't know whether your cowardice is worse or your foolishness
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
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Jahbulon
2012-04-24 08:36:44 UTC
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Post by abelard
i see you've carefully avoided all the questions
about your brotherhood and your cult...
I don't have a cult, or a brotherhood, but I'll start a new thread on
uk.politics.misc called NNOT Abelard & Jahbulon with better answers.
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Jahbulon
2012-04-24 08:45:02 UTC
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Post by abelard
do you believe your brother breivik is mad or bad?
The Freemason, Brother Breivik, is not my brother. I would have thought he
was more bad than mad but his complaints, IMHO, have some justice.
Post by abelard
and/or
do you believe 'bearded jihadists' are mad or bad?
I don't really know much about bearded jihadists. Belief in a god is just
about a prerequisite for madness but beyond that I don't know.
Post by abelard
why do you believe your brother is subject
to psychiatrists, while bearded jihadists
are (in the generality) not so subject?
Brother Anders Behring Breivik is subject to psychiatry because he is a
Freemason and Freemasonry always abuses mental illness as an excuse for its
evil misdeeds. I am sure that any Freemason bearded jihadists would be
subjected to the same allegations of instability.
Post by abelard
are socialists on the same page as masons?
What do you mean by that? BTSOOM.
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Tony Dragon
2012-04-23 22:17:35 UTC
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On 23/04/2012 21:37, Jahbulon wrote:

More highly falsely edited cut'n'paste.

Try The Guardian site to read this report without the added Freemason
references.
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