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The Sheeple Always Win
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Special Care
2009-10-13 19:35:48 UTC
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It's worth viewing in full, as this is really the story of human
civilisation of the past eleven thousand years.

Since the 1980s, I have been aware of what is happening, and aware
that only a small number of human beings wish to put a stop to it
(genuinely).

It was terribly difficult to face the truth, and I resisted facing it
for years.

The deafening silence of 1990 was a strong signal indicating that the
Sheeple will win.

I still couldn't believe it fully.

But then a few years later I discovered "Mankind in Amnesia" by
Immanuel Velikovsky, and to my horror I understood why we are doing
these terrible things to ourselves.

Only slowly. It was hard to face it fully.

Eventually I did.

If the overwhelming majority of your species are imbeciles, the small
number of sane people can't control them.

That is the basis of human civilisation for the past eleven thousand
years.

That is the basic story of humanity. Too many Sheeple. We can't defeat
the Sheeple. It's not a corrupt ruling group that is our immediate and
major enemy. It's the Sheeple that will destroy us. THEY are the
enemy.

Poor Jane doesn't see it yet.
http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU
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Careless Hands
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dddp6bt4_187gpmt3sjh

Melanie


Mankind in Amnesia
http://www.knowledge.co.uk/velikovsky/mankind.htm

Science in Turmoil - are we funding fraud?
http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/guest_jdd.htm

Animal Experimentation: the Hidden Cause of Environmental Pollution
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dddp6bt4_174g5kg85dn

The Only Sane Response to the Vivisection Swindle (1990):
http://www.nzavs.org.nz/mobilise/27/12.html

The Two Minutes Hate:


The Ministry of Truth:

Special Care
2009-10-13 21:17:24 UTC
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"The Individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
overwhelmed by the tribe.
If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened.
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning
yourself."
- Nietzsche
Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
2009-10-13 21:26:20 UTC
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Post by Special Care
"The Individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
overwhelmed by the tribe.
If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened.
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning
yourself."
- Nietzsche
Reading something they can understand, that seems to make sense, that
presents itself as technically competent, non-scientists are easily
gulled by fake science. --Henry H. Bauer
Special Care
2009-10-13 21:42:48 UTC
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On Oct 13, 10:26 pm, "Augustus O'Muircheartaigh"
<***@gmail.com> wrote:
http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU
Post by Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
Reading something they can understand, that seems to make sense, that
presents itself as technically competent, non-scientists are easily
gulled by fake science.  --Henry H. Bauer
Generally what we call science is a religion, and generally what we
think are scientific facts are actually being accepted entirely on a
basis of religious faith.
Hence, the healing process must involve the establishment of core
essential truths which are beyond dispute and need no verification by
self-styled experts.
It wont happen in our era, and the collapse appears to be coming soon,
judging by the frenzied activity of the ruling
group................... but some day far in the future, that is the
way humanity will heal.

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http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU

It's an interview, so the vision is non-essential and if you are busy
or have limited attention span, you can minimise the picture and
listen to the sound of that interview while doing something else.
Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
2009-10-13 22:23:05 UTC
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Post by Special Care
http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU
Post by Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
Reading something they can understand, that seems to make sense, that
presents itself as technically competent, non-scientists are easily
gulled by fake science.  --Henry H. Bauer
Generally what we call science is a religion, and generally what we
think are scientific facts are actually being accepted entirely on a
basis of religious faith.
Only if you know absolutely nothing about the subject. You really
know more or less nothing about science. All this stuff you believe
(colliding planets; vampire survivalism) has no evidence for it worth
speaking about and you accept it as a matter of faith. That is not
how science is done.

The weird thing with you is the stuff which you choose to believe
absolutely and the stuff you reject as some kind of conspriracy. You
read all this nutty blog shite and read these silly books and believe
the whole lot even if it is all invented and childish. You know
precisely zero about the actual sources of information that can be
used to try to find out what happened. You simply accept what is
written unquestioningly even when it can be shown to be a hoax or a
lie. You then refuse to even contemplate basic facts as a distraction
from your indisputable "truths". Velikovsky was a gobshite at best
and was probably a fraud. You are gullible; you have been taken for a
ride.

Let me try a different tack. You have been posting this shite in huge
volumes for years. How many people out there have you managed to
convince of anything?
Special Care
2009-10-19 01:56:21 UTC
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On Oct 13, 11:23 pm, "Augustus O'Muircheartaigh"
Let me try a different tack.  You have been posting this shite in huge
volumes for years.  How many people out there have you managed to
convince of anything?
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I welcome that question, but I've already given the answer elsewhere.

We are living in an insane civilisation.

The geological record shows a series of destructions of the surface of
the globe in recent millennia which were of such severity as to
traumatise our ancestors deeply so that they passed on their
emotionally crippled state to us.

People are scared. I have seen their fear, eyeball to eyeball. People
become hysterical if I press them and keep talking about the Forbidden
Subjects face to face.

I understand. It's rooted in the ancient traumas and the forgotten
survivalist emergencies.

This is going to be a long haul.

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In answer to your question, as I have stated elsewhere:

a small number of people have expressed acceptance and approval for my
writings in a half-indirect way;

a similarly small number of people have engaged in mudslinging;

the rest have remained silent;

alongside that, a smaller few people, such as you and Leroy
Ellenberger and one or two others, have replied with vast amounts of
verbiage, but not much logical coherence, and concentrating on soft
targets.

For example, you have sneered at my writings on "baby's arses," as you
put it, without any rational discussion on the fact that the mother-
infant relationship is a sexual relationship, nor of the vital issue
of *anal eroticism* in the mother-infant relationship.
All things are connected, and the violation and inversion of the
mother-infant relationship is intimately intertwined with the ancient
catastrophes shown in the geological record and the need to compete
with other tribes to produce the fiercest warriors.............

..........and the fiercest warriors are those that have been abused
most cruelly by their mothers.....

And the final answer to your question is: to say that only a few
people express acceptance for me is not a valid criticism of my
thesis.

The number of people who agree with a thesis has nothing to do with
proving it true or false.

Especially when we are members of an insane civilisation.

And I hope you are not intending to dispute that last statement, when
it is screaming out from every page of every newspaper and every page
of every history book.

The number of people who agree with a thesis has nothing to do with
proving it true or false.

Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
2009-10-13 22:26:28 UTC
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Post by Special Care
http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU
Post by Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
Reading something they can understand, that seems to make sense, that
presents itself as technically competent, non-scientists are easily
gulled by fake science.  --Henry H. Bauer
Generally what we call science is a religion, and generally what we
think are scientific facts are actually being accepted entirely on a
basis of religious faith.
Hence, the healing process must involve the establishment of core
essential truths which are beyond dispute and need no verification by
self-styled experts.
It wont happen in our era, and the collapse appears to be coming soon,
judging by the frenzied activity of the ruling
group................... but some day far in the future, that is the
way humanity will heal.
http://youtu.be/PelTWCUmTsU
It's an interview, so the vision is non-essential and if you are busy
or have limited attention span, you can minimise the picture and
listen to the sound of that interview while doing something else.
The less one knows about science, the more plausible Velikovsky's
scenario appears.... --Leroy Ellenberger
Special Care
2009-10-19 01:31:24 UTC
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On Oct 13, 11:26 pm, "Augustus O'Muircheartaigh"
Post by Augustus O'Muircheartaigh
The less one knows about science, the more plausible Velikovsky's
scenario appears.... --Leroy Ellenberger
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I "locked horns" with Leroy Ellenberger in the past, and he did me a
favour because it was Leroy Ellenberger and his obsessive, irrational
compulsion to find any anti-Velikovsky pretext he could come up
with.... that prompted me to say we must establish core essential
truths that are beyond dispute by verbiage merchants, and have no need
of verification by "experts."

There is a useful body of literature there in that Google Documents
presentation. Right now I am not motivated to work on it further to
reduce it to a set of core essential truths, alongside additonal
debatable discussion aids.

Still, in its present form, it's quite useful to those who will open
their minds to it.

Why try further, if just about everybody is a renegade like you?
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd
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