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Majority, 56% of Brits want to stay in the EU
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2014-10-23 15:47:00 UTC
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Cameron and Farrage should shut up

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Ukip’s recent clean-up at the European Elections, the swipes it seems
to be making on the foundations of the Conservative Party and its
clear populist style has, it appears, not made a dent in the level of
support Britons have for EU membership.
Ukip’s recent clean-up at the European Elections, the swipes it seems
to be making on the foundations of the Conservative Party and its
clear populist style has, it appears, not made a dent in the level of
support Britons have for EU membership.

In fact, new research by IpsosMori suggests that support for the
European Union (EU) has grown and is at its highest since 1991,
shattering perceptions that the UK is edging closer towards a swift
exit from the single market.

The sample group had been asked which way they would vote should a
referendum on EU membership be offered to them now.

Fifty-six per cent said they would stay in the EU – up from 44 per
cent in 2012.

Thirty-six per cent said they would ‘get out’ – down from 48 per cent
in 2012, while eight per cent said they didn’t know which way they
would sway.

Researchers had surveyed 1,002 adults in Britain between 11-14
October.


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However, Ukip’s oft-repeated mantra that more powers need to be taken
from Brussels and giving back to Britain, is a chord that appears to
have struck with the electorate, despite their desire in still wanting
to be part of the Union.

When it comes to Britain’s future relationship with the EU, the
preferred direction was considered, by 34 per cent of those surveyed,
to be the country’s return “to being part of an economic community,
without political links”.

Twenty-nine said it wanted “Britain's relationship with Europe
remaining broadly the same as at present”, while 17 per cent said it
would want “Britain leaving the European Union altogether”.

Fourteen per cent said “Britain and other member states of the
European Union” should move “towards closer political and economic
integration”.

Gideon Skinner, Head of Political Research at Ipsos MORI said: “With
the debate about Britain’s relationship with the EU a hot topic right
now, our poll shows support for Britain’s membership is up
significantly since the depths of the Eurozone debt crisis in 2011 –
although that does not mean that the public simply want the
relationship to stay the same.

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“There is a polarisation in views - UKIP supporters are twice as
likely to say Europe is going to be important to their vote in the
next election (although it is still some way behind immigration) and
are much more sceptical, while supporters of the other parties put the
issue lower down on their list and are more in favour of membership.”

As IpsosMori points out, as Ukip has ascended in popularity, gaining
13 percentage points in the polls, the number of people wishing to
leave the EU has infact dropped by 12 per cent.

These results can be contrasted with a YouGov poll today published by
The Times, which has shown that similarly, voters would choose to stay
in the EU so long as an adequate amount of renegotiation has been done
on our terms of membership.

According to the results, 55 per cent of people said they would stay
in with 'major' changes to the EU-UK agreement, while 44 per cent said
they would do with only 'modest' renegotiation.

If there is no change in Britain's relationship with the EU then this
number slips to 36 per cent, trailing behind the 42 per cent which
said it would vote to opt-out of the EU in that case.

IpsosMori 's researchers also looked at support for EU membership
across the parties’ voters, finding that 51 per cent of those backing
Conservatives want to stay in the EU, which climbs to 73 per cent of
Labour voters and 82 per cent of Liberal Democrat supporters. This can
be comparable with 11 per cent of Ukip voters.

In addition, support for staying in the EU is highest in London (66
per cent) and Scotland (60 per cent).

The Independent has contacted Ukip for comment.
C.V. Shaw
2014-10-24 01:16:20 UTC
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The UK, Canada, and the USA need to change from their " winner take all" form of electoral representation to some form of " Proportional" electoral representation. If the UK changed to some form of " Proportional" electoral representation, the UK would soon withdraw from the EU as the people of the UK would then, at that point, have true electoral representation and not a political system dominated by monopoly capitalists as is, also, the case for Canada and the USA.
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